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March 11, 2010

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Eric Wilde

That's pretty stunning.

I work in a profession that has long resisted unionization. Although I myself would be considered part of the corporate management, I've always wondered why IT professionals have so long resisted becoming unionized. I imagine that's true in so many white color industries. It sickens me sometimes to see how much executives in my company are paid while middle management and individual contributes struggle to keep their jobs and earn enough to live a decent life. I guess the fact that highly skilled labor is paid enough to get all the gadgets they want, if not a home of their own, is enough to keep the unions out of favor. Its kinda sad and I do wish white color industries would start accepting unions more.

kathy a.

eric, i suspect you meant to write "white collar" industries, but the typo is unfortunately too true.

minstrel hussain boy

while that may have been a typo, it's probably a fruedian type typo.

i mean, look around your average IT firm, look around your average board room.

what color scheme will you see?

Eric Wilde

Too true, too true. Its actually not so bad on my team. If you just count the US personal (about 30% of the team) you'll see 52% caucasian. Black and hispanic groups are not represented at all. We have quite a few of the different cultures of Asia represented.

Eric Wilde

More to the point of the post, there is a much larger gender divide. Only 26% of the US personnel are women. Its worse overseas.

oddjob

I am again reminded of How it Works.

(Not a criticism of Eric's particular employer, but rather an observation regarding the amount of misogyny still embedded in the sciences.)

Sir Charles

Eric,

There is a general fear about unionizing leading to termination, which it does in all too many cases.

However, I think in the white collar professions that there is a strong cultural aversion to unions. People think that they don't need a union and that their value should be apparent to an employer. They have a touching, if naive, faith in employers and the market place. That is why many of my blue collar clients make more money than people in businesses like IT.

kathy a.

oddjob, thank you for that link! as it happens, one of my sisters is a software engineer [with patents, even], and she has stories.

eric, i find it really troubling that there are no african-americans or hispanics represented in your company's US workforce, and only 26% women. i gather that troubles you, too.

Eric Wilde

eric, i find it really troubling that there are no african-americans or hispanics represented in your company's US workforce, and only 26% women. i gather that troubles you, too.

Its not a corporate-wide stat, just my particular team.

I find it troubling in three ways (apart from the obvious social disparity):
(1) Lack of diversity on the team means less diversity in ideas/viewpoints. This in turn leads to less creative solutions.,
(2) A disproportionate number of women lost their jobs in the last round of layoffs. The layoffs were explicitly designed around positions that were no longer to be supported and, perhaps not surprisingly, women were more over-represented in eliminated roles. Although there is no hard dividing line in the engineering teams between gender roles, there is a tendency toward men in the design/architecture realm. This in turn leads to the same lack of diversity problem mentioned in #1.
(3) Lack of black or hispanic skilled labor. The vast majority of the work force does not come from the community in which the company exists. The positions are for extremely highly skilled labor and there simply aren't that many black or hispanic candidates applying. In my years of hiring, there has been only one (count them, one!) candidate that I knew was african-american. There were probably hundreds more that never got past the resume review phase and so I have no idea what ethnicity they were. I have occasionally hired an hispanic engineer; but, they are relatively few compared to the total population. The lack of technical education and training for the african-american and hispanic population is appalling.

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