Yes, I am doing this again, although part of me wants to put on the cooking channel, grab a book, and pat the dog instead of tuning in.
But hey, it's a night that the media is going to be obsessed about, at a minimum, so I am going to be there. Hopefully a few of you will be joining me.
Back in a minute.
And here we go. Biden -- quick, direct answer and then pivot to the old script. And not a bad script at that. Iraq war over. Osama bin Laden dead. Afghanistan over by 2014. We don't need another war.
Joe is doing a pretty solid job I would say.
Ryan is holding his own as well.
Joe is overdoing the manic grin -- but he shows a good command of facts and is engaging effectively.
People forget how good a politician Joe Biden is -- he seems to have prepped really well. I think the seated format is a good one for him. He nails Ryan on the stimulus money.
Ryan makes the case for Social Security and Medicare.
"They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar." What balls this guy has.
Joe is willing to interrupt -- something that I think is a decent tactic.
Biden kills the voucher program. Really slaps it down. And then raises the specter of Social Security privatization, which I think remains a potent charge.
"Use your common sense -- who do you trust on this?"
Biden is actually really good at hitting on the points that will resonate with average people. He had a good grasp of the bullshit that is the claim that small businesses will be hurt by letting the Bush tax cuts expire.
Biden actually has a really good grasp of a multiplicity of issues -- I am actually pretty damn impressed with him tonight.
Josh Marshall's take: 'I’ll say it again. Whatever happens, Biden’s making the Democrats’ arguments. They’re all right there. Nothing is getting left unsaid. Nothing."
"We are leaving in 2014. Period." Fuck, yeah!
Jim Lehrer should watch Martha Raddatz and learn. She has gotten a lot a substance out of this forum.
'The last thing we need is another land war in the Middle East." I think that this is a statement that at least 80% of the American people will say amen to.
Glad that abortion finally gotten into the mix. I think Joe got the better of that exchange.
And Joe circles back to the 47% when talking about veterans. Nice bank shot.
Biden also works in the middle class at the end -- it helps to be a little bit shameless in this business.
To sum up: I think Biden clearly carried the evening and showed the way for Obama in terms of deploying various lines of attack. I also think that there is nothing embarrassing at all about Joe Biden's performance. I think he showed a lot of fluency on a broad range of topics. (I think Ryan was okay -- but I am pretty sure that Biden's positions, particularly on matters of foreign policy, will be more popular with voters.)