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September 17, 2012


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Very few of these folks would be comfortable with a pacifist like Jesus Christ.


If you read their public statements you'll note rather a few of them play up, a ton, the scourging in the Temple story. Doing that is an attempt to whitewash Jesus' general avoidance of violence.

low-tech cyclist

On a completely different topic, several threads back I was moaning about the absence of a reasonably comprehensive guide to House races in this cycle. David Jarman of the Daily Kos Elections crew has put together easily the best guide I've seen so far.

Eric Wilde

ltc, the URL for the Tod Kelly piece is off. The domain is set to cogitamusblog.com instead of motherjones.com

Eric Wilde

sorry, maybe that should be the ordinary-gentlemen.com domain:

low-tech cyclist

Eric - try it now, I think I fixed it.

Eric Wilde

Yep, that works. Thanks!


Hey guys, I've been completely run over by pre-election craziness, most of which does not fit this voter's values, at all. To keep from going mad, I've run off to Yerp for a few weeks, so you don't have to. I must say, those commie-loving, wealth-sharing spoiled rotten Dutch commuters pedalng 60 on their pollution-free bikes would just as soon run you over as look at you, and the French -- oh the French! -- they charge you for the water you drink and then the toilets you use, just to pay for their disgustingly generous benefits! If we ever covered childcare for women who wanted to go back to work, can you imagine what would happen? C'est fou! Anyway, I'm leaving the salvation of our democracy entirely in your hands. No pressure...
PS: I may never come back.


What's the expression? "Screw the pooch". He done done it. Royally.

Values voting means never having to respect 47% of one's fellow countrymen, moochers all. "It's our turn." "Start packing." Don't think so guy.

kathy a.

nancy -- that mother jones piece with the romney video is very telling. as one of the 47%, i promise i pay a MUCH larger percentage of my income than he does -- how dare he call me a freeloader who pays zero?

my captcha started with "terrible." heh!

low-tech cyclist

From the link:

Fielding a question from a donor about how he could triumph in November, Romney replied:
There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.

Romney went on: "[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Wow. Just wow.

I remember saying something, somewhere (maybe here, maybe not), in the past several days about how fundamentally dangerous it was to elect someone to the Presidency who clearly had no idea what life was like for most Americans.

I think I'll just double and redouble that sentiment.


kathy -- Son, soon to be graduate student again, was doing some paperwork to apply for grant money in hopes of heading off the deep borrowing hole into which students desperately wish not to fall. Found that: as a student last year, spring term, he made a small amount of money doing university fundraising for 12-15 hours a week -- his tax category was 15%. Refund: $22.


I remember saying something, somewhere (maybe here, maybe not), in the past several days about how fundamentally dangerous it was to elect someone to the Presidency who clearly had no idea what life was like for most Americans.

I think I'll just double and redouble that sentiment. Roundly seconded.

kathy a.

and here is a priceless little snippet about mitt's daddy being born in mexico, and how it would have been helpful to this campaign if mitt could claim to be latino.

this, from a man who just a couple weeks back made a birth certificate joke. because we are all post-racial now, or something, as long as those people aren't at the table.

i'm having some moments right now.


I saw the Mother Jones story too. Every time I think these people can't go any lower they prove me wrong. And yes, I pay a higher percentage of my income in taxes than Romney and his pals do, and I also put in 50-60 hours at my job every week. But since I work for the government of course I'm not doing real work and I'm one of those freeloaders.

As I think Sir C has been known to say, God I hate these fucking people. I must admit that I've found all of the Politico poli-porn pretty entertaining though.

Sir Charles


This video is amazing. I just put a post up about it.

As I note, the Politico stuff is great fun, but not -- God help me -- a "gamechanger." But this video -- that is a dressage horse of a different color.

big bad wolf

either depressing or heartening, depending upon whether it is ethics or obama's chances that are under discussion.

maybe we all need something inspirational. in 76 this thrilled a lot of teenage boys though theory and scholarship showed that not to be possible.


The watchword is "innocent life". The qualifier is there because birth is where the sin clock starts ticking.

Sir Charles


I am so pissed that you cannot embed that video. I watched it recently in total awe and then was frustrated to find I couldn't post it.

Alas, I did not see it the first go round. That was Easter weekend in 1976 -- I was 16 -- and it was shockingly warm out in the Boston area -- close to 90 as I recall. I remember playing basketball in the sweltering weather and then going to a party at a friend's house where me and a buddy knocked down a case of beer in two hours -- needless to say I was not upright for Patti's performance and had to see it on reruns. (I seem to recall that this was the night that Ron Nessen, Gerald Ford's press secretary was hosting -- how strange was that. The Ford Administration and Patti Smith on the same stage.


Exactly. Although -- in keeping with the spirit of the above-comment -- Elvis Costello advised us that "there's no such thing as an original sin."

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