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November 18, 2010

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Ray M

Lisa - I'm assuming you intended to enclose "journalism's finest" in sarcasm tags, right?

Lisa Simeone

Mon ami, yes, I was being sarcastic.

Maria Ann

I was just re-watching the X-Files the other day and pondering if the show held up well in a post-9/11 world...but the more things change the more they stay the same, eh?

Joe

Gee, the rest of us folks have to answer for criminal charges, particulary charges of violence against women. I don't know if the charges are true or not, but does he get a pass on showing up to face and refute them? The rest of us would not.

minstrel hussain boy

it is an old, old, story. in vietnam the abuses tended to occur in (designated by another FRAGO) "free fire zones" where all living things (often including livestock) were to be considered hostile and therefore to be "eliminated" or (my personal favorite) "terminated with extreme prejudice."

at the time the approved military method of keeping score was the "body count." the more bodies a young officer in the field counted, the better his performance was rated.

combining the order creating the zone where bodies could be accumulated without question and the emphasis on dead bodies to count almost instantly devolved into rampaging u.s. units slaughtering every living being indiscriminately. i personally saw the effects of one such action. it made me sick. today, when i recall the sights there, and the smells, in aging scenes of brutal killings you cannot discount the smells, i still feel my stomach turn and my gorge rise.

the inevitable progression of events when standards of conduct and morality are lowered to "deal with exigent circumstance" is rapid. war, with blinding swiftness, becomes nothing but mass murder, rape, torture, and pillage.

it wasn't our once strong refusal to engage in or tolerate atrocity that caused our failures in the field of vietnam. we simply should never have been there in the first place. it took the combined folly of five successive administrations to set the table and scene for that clusterfuck. it wasn't the dogged reporting, often at great danger to themselves by guys like sy hersch, david halberstram, and philip caputo that brought about the failure there.

it is sad, terribly sad, that we seem to always learn the wrong lessons.

So, in the Libyan fable
it is told

That once an eagle,
stricken with a dart, Said, when he saw
the fashion of the shaft,

"With our own feathers,
not by others' hands,
Are we now smitten."

aeschylus

such an old, sad story.

Joe

FYI, that's a different Joe commenting than me. I guess from now on I should go by a different moniker. Probably JoeS

Lisa Simeone

Joe, I imagine he will. He can't stay in hiding forever. But do you really believe that's why they want to apprehend him? And do you really believe that he conveniently assaulted two different women within days of setting foot in Sweden after the first leaks?

Come on, I'm one of the loudest-mouthed feminists out there, and even I think this stinks like days-old fish.

Read what Glenn Greenwald reminds us of in the link above. Here's an excerpt:

There are a lot of lessons here, most of them obvious. In 2003, the ex-Marine and U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter -- who had become one of the most persuasive opponents of the attack on Iraq, repeatedly and presciently insisting that there was no evidence of WMD -- was the subject of a media smear campaign, accusing him of having engaged in criminal sex acts with adolescents. That led to commentary like this from the nation's sleaziest bottom-feeders:

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