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May 28, 2010

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Sir Charles

I am impressed.

Photos and everything.

litbrit

Welcome, Minstrel Boy! And thank you for this very timely and delicious recipe. We've got an ice-cream maker both here and at the apartment (people like to give us cooking stuff for Christmas, what can I say) and are planning to make lots and lots of the stuff this summer.

YAY! ICE CREAM! NO SCHOOL!

*Does silly summer dance and gets told by ten-year-old to Grow up, Mama.*

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oddjob

You're posting here now?

COOL!!!!!!! :)

oddjob

Photos and everything.

Sir C., you've never read any of the posts on MB's own (now moribund) blog, have you?

I recommend you go snoop around there. You'll have to dig into the archives to really get what I'm talking about, but the stories and the recipes definitely make it worthwhile!

litbrit

oddjob, I know--cool indeed. We are very lucky. I predict an extremely interesting, amusing, and fattening summer for us all, ha!

Corvus9

Wait, is this minstrel hussein boy? I'm confused. The post definately reads like mhb.

If so, then yay! I would say "welcome," mhb, but that seems kind of odd, since you've been here forever.

Ehh, fuckit.

Welcome!

And uh, if it's not mhb, welcome!

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oddjob

Yes, it's Minstrel Hussein Boy

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jeanne marie

And he's the famous Jeopardy alum and chocolatier!

kathy a.

woot, mhb! that ice cream looks to die for.

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minstrel hussain boy

i'll be working back under my psuedonym as soon as i can figure out how to change the typepud account...

agent says that it is death on gigs if they know that you blog.

kathy a.

oh, great story about madam zenobia's, too. LA's such a weird place -- i can say so because i grew up there.

minstrel hussain boy

i guess from now on it will use the nom-de-blogging...

already fielded one shit fit phone call from an agency underling.

Corvus9

Ooh, sorry. Feel free to edit my comment (if that possible), if you need to. I won't mind.

beckya57

What kind of music do you play?

I'm a bit of a foodie, but have very little kitchen talent, so I'm always impressed by others'. You and Ezra Klein should get together.

oddjob

Blog powers that be should also feel free to delete my comment above (and to delete this one as well if that seems best).

litbrit

All done. *phew*

oddjob, that's the first time in my life that anyone has ever referred to me as a "power"--thank you, darling. ;-)

(I always wondered what it felt like, ha!)

kathy a.

good work with the administrative super-powers, litbrit! use them only for the good. ;)

Toast

I would like to start off by thanking Sir Charles, and Litbrit

Inaugural post and we get a superfluous comma? Jesus. (shakes head)

Toast

(Kidding, btw. I'm in a snarky mood tonight.)

oddjob

use them only for the good.

Someone is a fan of X-Men, perhaps? :)


I'm in a snarky mood tonight.

Which is to say life this eve. at casa Toast is completely typical........... :)

minstrel hussain boy

l.a. is a very strange, and in many ways wonderful place.

madame zenobia's is a legendary watt's institution. it's a couple blocks from the towers and was near the flash point of several riots.

the BBQ is exquisite. she does a creole style, with a light, vinegary sauce. spicy but not painful. it's a family owned place. madame's kids, and extended family all work the place.

there's a stage there, and any musicians are expected to play. the audience is tough, but sophisticated. they don't have time for posers or pikers.

i was there the night obama clinched the nomination and the place was rocking out loud. there were folks dancing in the streets and more joy there than i've seen a long time.

as far as what kind of music i play it comes down to just about anything. my chops will take me into folk, rock'n'roll, jazz, blues, country, classical orjust about everything but heavy metal. not because i don't like it or anything, but because for a lunch pail kind of musician there aren't that many gigs out there in it.

people ask me what my favorite kind of music is i tell them:

what ever they're paying me for tonight. that's my favorite.

i'm busy packing to head over to arizona. it was only fair for me to reciprocate on the ticket thing.

kathy a.

oddjob, i've heard of X-men, but stole that line from someone in real life, who possibly might have stolen it from popular culture, but how would i know?

litbrit

I love vinegar-y barbeque. Mmm...as long as they can do fish or shrimp or veggies, though, which few true BBQ places do, so I wind up eating cornbread or plain bread dipped in the sauce, along with whatever greens are on offer.

I was in Memphis in '91, and Robert and I visited a fantastic BBQ place called the Interstate (among many, many other wonderful restaurants and, of course, BB's blues club on Beale Street.) Barbeque talent is something America should be very proud of--it's legendary around the world. The last time I was in England, for a design/landscape architecture conference (in the early 90's too), our Brit host and friend tried to throw a big outdoor BBQ party and couldn't seem to get it right; fortunately, one of the visiting architects was a Texan girl, and she took him shopping, showed him the ropes, and saved the day.

As Florida is home to such a wildly varied mix of "out-of-staters", we've been present at many a passionate argument as to who makes the best barbeque--Memphis, Chicago, various Texan cities, St. Louis, you name it.

Me, I like the tar-pit cookouts that spring up on the beaches in the islands. Those are mostly seafood. As they say, it's all good. (What a great weekend to discuss barbeque, by the way.)

oddjob

Interesting.

X-men is a comic book series about a world (this world, but an alternate version of it) where some people are born with mutations that give them superpowers, and the difficulties this creates for them and for society. I confess I haven't read the comic books/graphic novels, but I've watched two of the three movies recently created from those, and I must confess I love the way they bring up the difficulties presented by "the other" in your midst who is only "other" because of cultural constructs.

kathy a.

litbrit, this may be a step too far, but i accidentally ran across a website on food carts in portland. one is a vegan BBQ place! http://www.foodcartsportland.com/2010/05/15/homegrown-smoker-natural-barbecue/

when i lived in the south, there was a huge divide about mustard-based BBQ sauce and tomato based. i think that was a north/south carolina rivalry, with georgia weighing in about appropriate side dishes, but tennessee has some pretty darned good varieties.

Prup (aka Jim Benton)

Actually, oddjob, that theme described, defined -- and made special the whole beginning of Marvel Comics. (Yes, I actually bought FANTASTIC FOUR #1 on the stands, and literally can remember where it was on the rack and where I was when I opened it after I got home. I knew I had something special then, something I'd never seen before. Not just seeing it actually set in New York City instead of Metropolis or Gotham City -- with a stereotypical brooklyn cabbie in an early scene -- but with characters that actually had real-life problems and interactions. (It was something like the fourth or fifth issue when the FF were in danger of being evicted from the Baxter Building.)

But that whole 'dealing with the difficulties of being other' was always a thread, most notably in the early Spiderman, but even in Fantastic Four. DC characters all were accepted, all got aslong with each other, with the only difficulty they faced was the villain of the issue. But with the FF and much more as the other characters like iron Man, the Hulk, Doctor Strange and Thor were added, there was always as much danger of a fight breaking out between the characters as between the character and a villain. "The Marvel Intermurals" was a regular feature of the books and crossovers.

Spiderman was a neurotic teenager who became a superhero out of guilt -- and had the best reason for having a 'secret identity' in history, an aunt with a weak heart who couldn't be allowed to find out her nephew was Spiderman because she'd literally worry herself to death.

[Shut up, Prup, you've made your point and lost your readers by now.]

oddjob

I have never been a comics book fan, but I used to watch FF cartoons on Saturday mornings, and I totally get what you're saying, particularly with regards to the Thing.

Corvus9

Wow, Prup, you actually got to buy FF #1? That's so neat.

I uh, have upwards of five thousand comics, and a pretty decent portion of them are FF and X-Men stuff, not all of it good.

Odd fact. The co-creator of Spider-man, Steve Ditko, is actually an Objectivist. Which is funny, because amazing Fantasy #15 is probably the least Objectivist story of all time. (Stan Lee is one of my heroes.)

Prup (aka Jim Benton)

Okay now I can't resist bragging. When I had a college radio show I was (technically) the first person to put Stan Lee on the air, beating carson by one night. ("Technically' because the show was first broadcast on the AM station -- supposedly heard in the dorms if the transmitter was working. The FM rebroadcast was the next night, but after the Carson show.)

I'll tell some stories tomorrow morning -- when I'm awake. (Is the reason the HULK is green generally known? He wasn't supposed to be.)

As for my own taste in Marvels -- I've gone decades without reading them, then gone into frantic purchasing of every 3 for $1.29 pack I could find, trying to fill in a 20 year jigsaw puzzle -- I was always more fond of the FF and the AVENGERS than the X-MEN, as well as DAREDEVIL -- a blind superhero who is also a lawyer, what's not to like? One recent fascination is with the medium-length SLEEPWALKER series, and who can't enjoy SHE-HULK's kidding of the whole field. But my real favorite have been the stories centering around Adam Warlock and the brilliant building of a weirdly consistent theology in it. (I even had --- not have -- the ending of the original series which ran in HULK and included a 'Last Supper' that was either the most reverent or the most blashphemous panel in the history of (aboveground) comics.)


MR Bill

Welcome, Minstrel H. If'n I cussed at you, it was all in the spirit of the discussion.
The cantaloupe icecream looks scrummy, and now I'm wonderin' about trying this with honeydews..

minstrel hussain boy

honeydew works just fine, although it benefits from easing up on the extracts a bit. the more delicate flavors have trouble standing up to the vanilla and almond flavors.

litbrit

Son Two is very jazzed about your Madame Zenobia story, MB. He can't wait to meet you. Jerry was sick this week, so he didn't have a lesson, but he and Robert jammed for a couple of hours last night. It's such a pleasure for me, hanging out with musicians! (Much better than attending conferences, ahem.)

Agreed on the honeydew--I'd almost skip the almond altogether and use just a whisper of vanilla. The lemon juice will brighten everything.

I have a recipe for watermelon granita lying around here somewhere, too. You don't even need a machine, just a couple of metal trays, which you remove from the freezer every so often in order to mash the semi-frozen goods with a fork.

Corvus9

The Hulk was supposed to be gray, as he was for the first couple of issues, but printing gray with the production methods of the time was really hard so they switched him to green, which was easier to get right. Correct?

That's awesome that you got to meet Stan Lee. Totally Jealous.

My favorites were probably Amazing Spider-man, right before the Clone Saga hit, with Venom and Carnage running around and Harry Osborn becoming the Green Goblin (Actually, I think that happened in Spectacular Spider-man. Oh Well.) That period right before the Clone Saga was really good, and would have been a good time to end the series, in a lot of ways, but then they
screwed up the character, and have been screwing him up ever since.

In terms of looking for old back issues, I haven't been collecting for the couple years, what with being poor and all, but I love trying to buy up John Byrne's run on Fantastic Four (probably the most mature output on the title), Miller's work on Daredevil, and I one time managed to buy up the entire Surtur Saga from Walt Simonsen's run on The Mighty Thor. Also, just of ton of X-Men comics from the nineties.

I am actually starting to think the 90s were better than the aughts in terms of comics, at least for Marvel. The eighties were probably even better, but I feel like all the bad trends that started during the 90s have just gotten worse over the last decade. I am sick and tired of crossovers!

Prup (aka Jim Benton)

Nope. He was supposed to be gray, and was in the first issue. but what they discovered is that they had inadvertently used the exact same color they used in the (then rare case) that they showed a black person. And nobody caught it until the issue was at the printers. They realized how bad this would look, apologized for the printing error, and to make sure, made him green.


As for meeting him, he's just like he comes across, and I was smart enough to surround him with people -- rare at the time -- who both took comic books seriously and knew their history There was none of the 'freak show' aspect, 'Hey, here's somebody who actually is claiming he's trying to do something adult with *giggle* comic books. Meet Stan Lee...'

We had a couple of people who'd been reading them from the beginning, and Ted white, the Sf writer and editor and long time fan of both SF and comics (he was a semi-regular guest on the show), and we had a discussion that started from the idea that comic books could be serious, instead of trying to prove it.

(I even had somewhat tattered copies of FF#1 and AAF#15 signed by him and, idiot that i am, lost them.)

Corvus9

AAF #15?

Do you mean Amazing Fantasy #15?

Prup (aka Jim Benton)

Amazing ADULT Fantasy #15 to be precise. Yep. Both, and i lost them -- and you can't say anything worse to me than what i've said to myself.

Corvus9

I feel only pity, Prup. Only pity.

big bad wolf

Rev. Gary Davis's "samson and deliah" is one of my favorite songs, and, all too often, one that seems best suited for remedying the daily injustice "if i had my way, i would tear this whole building down."

davis's "lord i wish i could see again" and "death don't have no mercy in this land" are also powerful beyond anything i could possibly describe.

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