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January 14, 2010

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Corvus9

Right you are, l-t c.

One thing I think that might be useful is to deify FDR, like how Republicans deify Reagan. You know, not even the issues he actually supported, just make him some kind of figurehead, make it obvious that we are the Party of FDR, of the New Deal, and that is the standard we are advancing. Yeah, it's simplistic, and a white wash, and that sort of stuff really shouldn't be encouraged, but we need some kind of branding and mission statement, if only to define the acceptable limits of what the party is. At this point, it seems we are simply, people who aren't Republicans, and you can't really run a party that way, especially since it is the Democratic Party that represents the forward march of history. How can you get anywhere if you don't know where you are going?

Jamelle

I'm inclined to think that Blue Dogs actually do represent the median political positions of their constituents, even if they aren't actually representing their material interests. And if that's the case, the real problem is that their constituents have identified themselves with the very people trying to screw them.

oddjob

While New York has sometimes embraced out of state candidates for senator, I doubt that's going to happen with Ford. Responding to a softball New York Times question about Jets or Giants with an answer about how you've jet-setted around with both owners is about the worst possible way to come across as a 100% carpet bagger as I can think of!

low-tech cyclist

Jamelle - Stockholm Syndrome lives!

Having spent a baker's dozen years living in places that are culturally part of the South, I think there's a certain amount of truth to that: a lot of people down there believe that whatever's good for business must be good for them. But I'd say a Democrat's job is to offer a bit of pushback to that notion, rather than to go along with it.

When Republicans represent a D-leaning or tossup district, they aren't afraid to take conservative positions. They'll throw the occasional sop to the moderate nature of their electorate, but on the whole, they'll unapologetically vote like Republicans.

I don't expect Dems to be willing to take it to the same extreme as Republicans usually do, but a bit of a "hey, I'm a Democrat, you knew that when you elected me" attitude from our Blue Dogs would be a big step forward.

Jamelle

You know, my comment inspired me to write a post elaborating on that idea. So here it is, if you're interested (also, thanks for this post, it was really good!): http://usjamerica.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/the-problem-with-blue-doggism-hint-it-isnt-the-blue-dogs/

Sir Charles

Harold Ford is really the whole pakcage -- shallow, cynical, narcissistic, ethically dubious, a panderer to people's worst tendencies, and completely lacking in political courage.

What's not to like?

oddjob

What's not to like?

LOL!

low-tech cyclist

Yes, your average Blue Dog is a corporate lackey, but he also represents a conservative district and in all likelihood, is reflecting the preferences of his constituents.

When it comes down to it, the problem isn’t that Blue Dogs are spineless, it’s that a large swath of rural America — disproportionately poor and disadvantaged — has decided that its interests are best served by conservative policies. Which, at the moment, amount to little more than giveaways to the wealthiest and most privileged Americans.

But how did rural America reach that conclusion? With respect to social issues, it's pretty clear: they like guns because they're a natural part of rural life, and they're in a bible-thumping cultural milieu.

But when it comes to stuff like health care or bankruptcy deform or card check or stuff like that, they believe what they believe because that's what almost everyone in their world has told them is right.

I expect even rural and Southern Dems to be part of the pushback to that, to educate their voters that a lot of that stuff they've heard is wrong. Raising the minimum wage will fatten their paychecks, and hardly anyone will lose a job because of it. If bankruptcy isn't a punitive process, then if they should go bust, they won't become the indentured servants of their creditors. And if health care reform passes, they'll never have to worry again about losing their health insurance when they need it because their insurer dug through the records and found out that they failed to mention their acne or gingivitis as a pre-existing condition.

Yeah, I expect anyone who holds elective office and has a (D) after their name to point out stuff like this, rather than defending the corporate view of the world. Representing a conservative district is no excuse.

low-tech cyclist

Shoulda pointed out that the italicized quote that I responded to just now, was part of what Jamelle posted at his blog (and at the League of Ordinary Gentlemen too).

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