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July 06, 2009

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Corvus9

And this was in Great Britain. In the late '90s. Jesus.

You know, I have been following the debates about the various violations of civil liberties, from torture to unwarranted searches and seizures to violation of habeas corpus and indefinite detention, where people have argued that such things are unprecedented and must be stopped now. But then you read stories like this one and think, you know, we never really had those rights in the first place. Governments have been doing this stuff all the time. All Bush did was be incompetent enough to let us in on it.

Sir Charles

The RUC is a terrorist organization. And the British government has all to often been complicit with it over the years.

Sir Charles

nimh,

Have you ever seen Ken Loach's "Hidden Agenda" with Frances McDormand? It reminds me a bit of this scenario and is based in part on the fact that MI5 was trying to bring down the Wilson government.

nimh

Corvus - yep. Too true.

Charles - no, haven't seen that film of his.. will look out for it!

nimh

Actually, considering her profession I guess Nelson was more Britain's Stanislav Markelov, but who remembers him?

Corvus9

Nimh, this isn't really directly related to the issue at hand, but do you have any idea what happened to Nelson's face. The article doesn't seem to mention it, nor her wikipedia file, but the left side looks like it's been pretty nastily disfigured. Did that have anything to do with her work, or was it unrelated, like from a childhood incident or something?

nimh

Corvus, I have no idea I'm afraid!

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