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September 04, 2008

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low-tech cyclist

I think the different maps are quite interesting. The last two are clearly the ones worth studying if the question is who will win, but the first one tells you what the prospects are for an electoral landslide.

For the prospects of winning, I think the best one is the second one, minus NC: sure, NC may be that close, but nobody thinks Obama will lose VA and OH, but win NC. And we're not about to lock up MT early, and hopefully we'll keep ND in play, which is another reason to favor the second map over the third.

Matt Weiner

How much of a bounce effect do you expect these to show? If we figured that the polls are overstating Obama's strength by, say, 2-4% because of his convention bounce, how would they look?

Though honestly I don't expect McCain to be able to play for any of the states that are blue on the last map, except for Montana, Michigan, and maybe Wisconsin. Looking at 538, maybe I shouldn't even say maybe Wisconsin.

Matt Weiner

Of course to some extent I can answer my question just by comparing the maps.

Nicholas Beaudrot

Realistically Michigan is the only blue state where McCain can play. They're going to try in Wisconsin, and perhaps Iowa, but I think Obama's lead there will hold.

Nicholas Beaudrot

I think in the end the convention bounce will put us more or less where we were three weeks ago, with Obama ahead by 3-4 points.

Eric Rauchway

Hey, Nick, I've been led to believe your calculation of 85% is incorrect because it assumes that the probabilities of getting a win in each state is independent.

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