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April 15, 2008

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minstrel hussain boy

here's the touchstone for him to use to see if the remark would be interpreted as racist or not. say it to my face, if you walk away and you're not bleeding then your usage was acceptable.

Neneh

You hit the nail on the head. (Also, what minstrel said.) Everytime something like this happens I know not to read the comments because someone will be justifying it within the first few comments. *smdh*

Actually since Super Tuesday I've been avoiding comments on most political blogs...

has_te

That's kinda what I thought.
Almost a 'term of endearment', particularly so
if the speaker were any something older than the referenced.
I didn't catch any of that intent.
[More likely he jus' wanted an old -really angry- guy at the switch.
Hmmm? McPander, anyone?]

Bruce Webb

Well I have made this same point on a couple of threads so I'll try to be brief.

One you can't just take the 'intent' out of 'intentionality'. I have friends that regularly invite me to undertake anatomically impossible acts. I don't take any of that seriously. On the other hand I had to explain to my (very young) bartender's (very young and dumb) boyfriend why telling self-described 'black jokes' to black people you don't know who came into your girlfriend's bar at 11 o'clock at night was not smart verbal behavior-particularly if your leg is in a cast. The fact that the actual joke was grossly racist wasn't even the point, there are some places you just don't go. (Though I must say the content of the joke would have left him hospitalized if told in the wrong neighborhood bar, it combined race and theology in a uniquely offensive way, a point that he simply didn't get at all.)

Which is to say that Jim Bob calling Bobbie Ray 'boy' or 'you son of a bitch' while tossing back shots of Jack D at the bar while watching NASCAR is not the same as me calling Obama 'boy' at a banquet. I don't think the 'say it to my face' test always works, it is not always what you say, it is where you say, when you say, how you say and most importantly why you say what you say that makes all the difference.

This guy flunked that test.

R. Stanton Scott

Using homophobic, sexist, or racist terms in the context you outline here is homophobic, sexist, or racist. "You throw like a girl" is not another way of saying "nice play," and perpetuates a feeling of superiority among the in-group that uses these words playfully.

Whether or not a woman happens to hear it and take offense makes no difference. This behavior trivializes the use of such epithets, and shames those who object on moral grounds into refraining from speaking up. It's just a bunch of guys having a few laughs, after all.

Sherman

I call shenanigans on this post. Quit trying to cover for a racist, you are making yourself look stupid.

Stephen

Quit trying to cover for a racist, you are making yourself look stupid.

Huh?

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