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February 06, 2008

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Ron

Why did the Democrats decide on such a weird system of proportional representation? Hopefully for 2012 they will go to a simpler system based on the overall popular vote for a state.

There is no chance it is over on March 4. Even if Obama wins more slightly delegates than her in Ohio and Texas, Clinton will still be right in the race especially with Michigan's and Florida's delegates in her back pocket. This is probably her only shot at the Presidency (Obama could easily run again in 2012 or 2016 despite Michele's hints that this year was voter's only shot at him), so I don't see her dropping out until she is mathematically eliminated which won't be on March 4.

Nicholas Beaudrot

Jesse Jackson had the rules changed after he ended up with so many fewer delegates than popular votes in ... '84? '88?

Nicholas Beaudrot

Okay, after looking at it closely, if Obama manages a "bull case" through February, he'll be up by just over 100 delegates by March 4th. If he can win those two by a 5-8% margin, he'll be up by 150 delegates. In the bear case, even if goes into those contests with a 20 delegate lead (losing ME, VA, and WI) and loses those two by 10%, he will be down by 10 delegates. And Texas is a primary/caucus hybrid, which helps him out.

Ron

The Clintons aren't throwing in the towel until the last dog dies, as Bill would say. That means when Obama gets 2208 and no sooner.

low-tech cyclist

I can see the logic behind allocating delegates proportionally. Where it loses me is the multilevel aspect of it - allocating delegates proportionally partly at the state level, and partly at the congressional district level.

If the problem was that Jackson got all of the Black votes in a state, but few white votes, leaving him under the 15% threshold, it would seem simpler just to lower the threshold to 10%, which would still weed out the kooks and vanity candidates.

But the number of superdelegates - an earlier 'reform,' if I recall - needs to be greatly reduced. If 20% of the delegates are superdelegates, then to win without superdelegates, the nominee needs to win 5/8 of the delegates that are determined by people's primary and caucus votes.

That's one hell of a supermajority requirement. And antidemocratic as all get out.

Sir Charles

Hey Nick,

I hope you are not doing your calculations on the metric system and without sleep. :-)

Am I right though that if Obama is only behind by 15 or so delegates that it is good news for .... John McCain.

ikl

As long as the campaign stays mostly positive and civil (at least on the level of TV ads and the kind of coverage than non-election obsessives read and watch), I don't think that the Democratic race extending through March helps McCain too much. If it goes through the summer, that is probably another story.

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